It’s fall weather here on Lac Seul this week and that means conditions are changeable. We’re used to big weather changes day to day. During most fall weeks we’ll see grey days, sunny days, calm days, windy days, and everything in between. What’s a little unusual for us to see is the weather go from grey and calm to sunny and windy in one day. What’s even more unusual is for the weather to have that kind of change almost every day of the week, and sometimes twice or more in a day. That’s what we saw this week and it led to walleye bites as unstable as the weather.
On a more normal week the highlights of most guide’s daily reports would be the hot spot or two where they caught their fish that day. This week the trend for many of our successful boats was to spend their days collecting fish a half dozen or so at a time from multiple spots each day. There were some of those multiple weather change days where it seemed like no spots on the lake produced more than a half a dozen fish for the sheet, but there were always some boats that were able to pick up a pattern early in the day, keep in motion, and visit enough spots to make up the numbers.
The average daily guide sheet this week listed 25 walleye over 18 inches, and as a group we boated 22 walleye over 27 inches, with 8 over 28, and 3 over 29 inches. That’s on the low side for both total volume and big fish compared to an average week here, but with three fish over 29 inches it’s safe to say the top end was still there. For the boats that got a win patience was the key to success this week. Anglers willing to devote their time to known big fish locations, and wait through weather changes and patchy bites even if the catch rate was low, were often the ones to boat a trophy that day. Almost all the big walleye were caught using jigs and minnows fished tight to well defined structure. The big fish weren’t just on “the spot” this week, they were on the “spot on the spot”.
There was almost zero time devoted to pike fishing by our anglers this week, those who did reported good action but very little size. Some big pike were jigged up from deep walleye spots, leading us to guess that the unsettled weather held the big pike deep this week.
A guide’s perspective: I’m a big believer in fishing aggressively, but this week you had to be smart about when to be aggressive. It was definitely not a week to “run and gun” – it was awfully easy to get caught chasing better, easier, faster bites all over the lake when the right answer was to capitalize on the bites you had already found.
It was a “no surprises” week. Lac Seul has a changeable nature and we talk about how unpredictable she can be, but every once in a while things go just as you would predict. We saw our first truly significant cold front of the fall this week – about the time we usually get one. Before the front we had warm weather and light winds and our best bites were deep with light jigs and minnows – just as they should be. While the front and big winds were moving through, the walleye answered to fast presentations at mid depths – just like they should. Post front light wind days they were back to deep water – just like they should be. No surprises there for any experienced walleye angler.
That may make it sound like everything was easy this week, but there were still plenty of challenges for guides and anglers each day. When the fish were deep you had to spend time working to catch them and if you picked the wrong spot to work on you could quickly run out of time that day. Using our electronics to be sure the fish were there and varying our presentations to find one that worked were key. When the walleye were answering to fast moving plastics on those high wind days it took good knowledge of the structure and close attention to keep your boat and baits working the depths and structure you were aiming for. And when the conditions changed from one extreme to another overnight you had to be quick to check the extremes to find the fish the next day. Both guides and anglers had to be on their toes to take advantage of the good bites this week.
The daily guide sheets reflect the changing conditions this week and the number of walleye on the sheet varied quite a bit day to day, but the average was 25 walleye over 18” per guided day. For the week we boated 30 walleyes over 27 inches, with 10 over 28 and 2 over 29 inches. It was about an even split between fish caught deep and fish caught fast.
Only a couple of guided days were spent hunting big pike this week. The guides who did chase pike reported consistent numbers caught but not many big ones were found in the mix. A lot of boats reported big pike seen or caught from deep water while walleye fishing, and such a clear separation of depth and size led some of our die-hard gator hunters to troll deep water for trophies this week. Our totals reflect the limited time devoted to pike this week with just 4 pike over 37 inches, the biggest being a 41.25 incher.
A guide’s takeaway: There’s something to be learned each week… I was one of the boats chasing pike this week and the sudden weather change and cool nights got me thinking fall a bit too early. I was eager to capitalize on big pike in fall locations and they just weren’t ready for fall patterns yet. The lesson for me to remember for next week is not to get ahead of myself, let the fish tell me when they are ready for a new trend.
At Silver Water Wheel Lodge
It was a great week at the Wheel for really big Walleyes. For the week, we caught and released 37 over 27 in., including 5 – 28s, 5 – 29s, 1 – 30, and 1 – 31. Jim Baker caught his 31 in. walleye of a lifetime on a main lake sand break pulling a 6.5 in. Gulp Nemesis on ¾ oz. Jig. Doug Smendik caught his 30.5 in. walleye of a lifetime dead sticking a minnow with a light jig on main lake rock. And from the top down, that is how the week went. Production was split about 50/50 between the two extremes in our presentation arsenal. Every guide boat did both every day, but we all adjusted at different rates depending on daily results.
To paint an accurate picture of the week, it is important to note that there was a wide range of production between days and between regions. There were no walleyes over 27 in. caught today, even though some boats put over 60 walleyes over 18 in. on the sheet. Guide sheets averaged 35 walleyes over 18 in. per day this week, but some days were 20 and some days were 60. Some days produced big fish, but only mixed in with a bunch of littles. Other days we saw great production on sand only to be followed up by multiple boats blanking on the same structure the next day. The best way to describe it is that you had to be on your toes this week.
It has not been a super wet summer up here and we did see some fires and smoke on the lake this past week. Most of those went out with the passing of a front and a good general rain on Wed. There are some trees changing colors to yellow already, although I would say that most of that is due to dry conditions rather than cooler temps. It is just the slightest hint of the approach of fall so far with a few leaves changing, a few weedbeds looking ratty, and some walleyes moving shallower at the end of the week.
We did spend some time chasing pike and the results were modest. For the week, we caught and released 1 – 37, 2 – 38s, and 1 – 41.
The Take Away:
The comment that stood out to me this week was from one of my most senior guides. His guest caught a monster walleye and we had just made a big racket in the dining room awarding him his Master Angler pin.
At the round table meeting, the guide’s comment was – “ I don’t feel like I earned this one.”
I asked him why.
His answer: “It did not fit the normal formula…. Find the fish… find the concentration…. Work deeper, pick up some bigger ones, and then verbally lay the ground work to work deeper, and not catch as many fish, but hope for a big one…..
Instead, my guys were happy with volume, we chose to stay shallow, we sorted through the eaters and the slots in 20 – 25 and then BAM! Monster walleye.
I heard a version of that story from 6 different guides this week.
Canadian summer is far, far different than Iowa summer. Most days this past week, were some version of “I can’t believe how beautiful this day is….” We again had cool misty mornings on the lake with lows in the 50s and stunningly, sunny, bright blue skies with highs in the mid-70s and very light winds. You couldn’t ask for better summer weather…. unless you are a fishing guide.
“Hey, wait a minute Mike, didn’t you say you were hoping for stable weather in last week’s fishing report?” Well yes, I did, but not that type of stable.
The weather did result in a more consistent depth preference for walleyes this past week. The 22 – 35 ft. depth zone produced about 95% of the walleye action. Main lake sand and main lake rock were equally productive, but the issue was feeding activity. At round table, guide after guide reported “marking, not catching.”
With most of the walleye populations in a neutral to negative feeding mood, SWWL guides choose the extreme options. You can either gear down with 1/8 oz. jigs and minnows and dead stick over concentrations of marked eyes. Or you can gear up with ¾ oz jigs and big Gulp Nemesis plastics and cover water, at depth, and at speed to search out the small percentage of active fish that are ready to chase down a big reaction bait. Both of those tactics worked at times, but there was no consistency. One great fast Gulp trolling pass was often followed up by a blank, because we picked off the only active fish in the group. Gearing down and dead sticking with 1/8s worked as well, but with finicky fish you need to capitalize on every bite because you are fighting the clock. And there is the key – results based on time. Make 2 bad choices in a row and you are behind the 8 ball. Have a guest angler that doesn’t like to fish Gulp or isn’t very good at it and you better make some changes fast. There is no way around the fact that this past week was a tricky bite. If a location, depth, and pattern were hot one day, more than likely that combo was dead the next. And the only way to win when that happens is to forget it and move on quickly.
For the week, we caught and released 30 walleyes over 27 in., including 6 – 28s, and 3 – 29s. Walleye guide sheets averaged 30 per boat per day, but there was a much wider range of results compared to previous weeks.
There was a little bit of time focused on chasing pike and that resulted in 9 over 37 in., including 2 over 40 in.
The Take Away: My guiding attack plan this week was to work the extremes by explaining to guests the reason for the need to work both options, but then carefully evaluating the results. One Medium power spinning rod rigged with 20 lb. braid, 10 lb. fluoro, and an 1/8 oz. jig.
The other Medium Heavy rod rigged with 50 lb. braid, 15 lb. fluoro and a ¾ oz. jig ready for a 6.5 in. Gulp Nemesis to be trolled at speed. In our arsenal, you can’t fish lighter/slower and you can’t fish heavier/faster. That was the action plan that produced results this week.
I had an important email conversation with one of my group leaders this past week and it included a discussion about stats. He made the point that numbers are important and should be analyzed critically. I agreed, but countered that sometimes the numbers don’t tell the whole story.
This past week stands out as a great example. The numbers were big. For the week, we caught and released 62 walleyes over 27 in., including 11 – 28s, 7 – 29s, and 1 – 30. Guide sheets averaged 35 walleyes over 18 in. per boat per day.
Those numbers make it sound like fishing was easy and awesome. In reality, it was great at times, challenging at others, and occasionally, flat out bad. I wrote about a depth separation for populations of walleyes in the past few weeks, and that trend has continued, but the speed at which those groups have shifted has been a surprise. There are no real trends to talk about tonight. During the past week, we have had hot bites for big walleyes in 35 ft., 25 ft., and in 15 ft. of water. Main lake sand produced well and then it didn’t. Same goes for Main lake rock. There were times when “eaters” were hard to find and there were days when big fish simply disappeared from a spot.
The reality is that we all fished a great number of spots this past week and used our full spectrum of guiding techniques and tools to catch them. The Great Gulp Nemesis crisis has been averted with the arrival of a shipment of 6.5 inch baits. Not surprisingly, there were just as many big walleyes caught vertically on light jigs and minnows as there were caught with big plastics and ¾ oz. jigs pulled at speed.
As you can guess, Weather was the driver for walleye movements and pattern changes. Flat calm conditions with highs in the 90s broke midweek with the passing of a major cold front. The lake is now misty in the mornings with low temps below 50 after the front and high temps just reaching 70. I don’t expect to find consistent fishing patterns until the weather becomes more stable. Until then, we will continue to fish it all.
There was some occasional effort and time spent casting for big pike and the results were fair. We caught and released 1 – 39, 1 – 40, and 1 – 42 for the week.
The Takeaway: Despite changing weather and walleye locations, groups and guides that were committed to actively hunting for big fish were successful. Many of our seasoned groups knew that they were accepting some risk when they requested to hunt big fish, but that understanding allowed guides the options to take chances and search for developing bites.
We had our version of a Canadian summer this week. It never got to 90, but 88 with no wind and no clouds is still pretty warm. I talked about a separation of walleye populations last week and that trend has continued to be reinforced. The Guide team is fishing it all; sand, rock, deep, shallow, weeds, flats, etc… And there are fish on all of those spots. The trick is to figure out how much time to spend on each option. The experiments continue, the results shift, and we adjust.
By the end of the week, the big ones were still down on main lake rock and sand. We found the occasional 26 or 27 in 12 – 17 ft., but the majority of the really big walleyes were found deeper. For the week, we caught and released 43 walleyes over 27 in., including 9 – 28s, 3 – 29s, and 1 – 31 caught by Lyle Terveen. Volume was good with guide sheets averaging 40 walleyes over 18 in. per boat per day.
Despite the good results, conditions were far from easy. There were several consecutive days of flat calm baking hot sunshine. The most interesting result from the week is that big Gulp pulled at speed with big jigs was just as effective as the absolute opposite presentation of tiny 1/8 oz. jigs dead sticked over deep water arcs. Every spot was different and the truth is that there were very different results from each guided boat. Those differences were not correlated to experience. There were many senior guide sheets, including my own that were a little light compared to some of the first-year guides who spent more time on traditionally productive spots.
Guides did a little bit of pike fishing this week and the results were OK. For the week, we caught and released 8 over 37 in., including 3 – 38s and 1 – 40.
Deep water sand was the key to the big walleye bite this past week. The hard part for me is that I want to be straight forward and honest and inform. The SWWL guides really do some cool experiments and come up with some really great intel. I like to share that here, because walleye hunters look to us for information. What makes my life hard is when multiple readers of that information search for Black boats on Lac Seul and pull up within 10 ft. and then troll closer. I move on. It is Lac Seul and there are 10,000 spots.
My mandate to the guide crew is to take the high road. When you get crowded, move on. I will admit that it does hurt to watch and see some of those anglers harvesting over slot fish for consumption. It just does not make sense to me. If you care that much about chasing big walleyes, then why would you not want to take care of the big girls for the future?
It isn’t fair. It isn’t cool. But we are still on Lac Seul. We are the fortunate few who get to guide on some of the best walleye water in Northwest Ontario. With our data base of known high quality spots, we don’t have enough time in the day to fish them all anyway. We never run out of spots, but some days we run out of time.
Even though many of you reading this report south of the Canadian border have been experiencing severe summer heat, we have yet to see a day above 90 at the Wheel this year. This week in particular was beautiful with high temps in the mid to upper 70s and then cooling off at night.
Walleye fishing was good this week, despite the fact that there is still a very clear separation between different groups of walleyes utilizing starkly different types of structure and depth zones. It was not uncommon to hear reports of walleyes caught from 3 ft. and from 33 ft. in the same boat on the same day. There are still some walleyes shallow in the weeds and there also some that are out on main lake, deep water rock and sand. The rest are in between or suspended. In general, we did find more big fish trending deeper.
For the week, we caught and released 47 walleyes over 27 in., including 13 – 28s, 1 – 29, and 1 – 30. Volume varied greatly. Some days we averaged well above 40 over 18 in. per boat, but on days with flat calm afternoons, we dropped off to an average of 25.
With the walleyes so spread out, we relied on “the program” to hunt down each day’s best option for a successful bite. “The program” is to fish it all with a rapid series of experiments that apply a variety of presentations to target different groups of walleyes in an array of depth zones and habitats. It sounds like a hot mess on paper, but here is an example of how a day plan works….
Spot 1 – targeting big fish on deep water sand. Presentation – Pulling big gulp at speed. Scan the sand break, note the depth of arcs and bait fish – tie on ¾ oz jigs with Big Berkley Gulp plastics and make a first pass at 1.2 mph zig zagging between 20 and 30 ft.
Possible result: 1 walleye over 24” and 2 slots in 40 minutes – move on.
Other possible result: 5 walleyes with 2 slots, 1 – 22, 1 – 24, and 1 – 26 – do it again.
Spot 2 – check the weed bite. Dragging ¼ oz. jigs in front of the windblown weed beds in 10 – 14 ft. of water with minnows.
Possible result: 2 eaters, and 1 slot in – 30 minute pass – move on.
Other possible result: 4 small ones, 5 slots, 1 – 22, and 1 – 25 in 30 minutes – do it again.
Spot 3 – check for negative to neutral fish on mid depth rock. Scan with sonar. Locate arcs. Drop down ¼ oz jigs with minnow and see if those fish will rise up to check out baits.
Possible result: 2 – 3 walleyes rise up to check out baits and fade back down only to rise back up again. Option – down size to 1/8s and slow down.
Other possible result: catch 4 slots and 3 on the sheet in an hour and do it again.
Analyze results. Monitor weather changes. Wash, rinse, repeat.
The point is that as much as we would love to have a magic bullet or a secret bait, the real answer to the question on most days is hard work and a systematic, disciplined approach attached to time and results. It is tough and if you miss just one tiny detail, even the most seasoned guide can miss the hot bite. The great equalizer is shared information. Even when you have completed 15 different walleye experiments to perfection and failed to find a good result, you know that when you get back to the lodge and meet at the round table, several of your buddies will have figured it out and some will have had spectacular results. You take that information and move on, because tomorrow is another day and the board is wiped clean.
We did spend a bit of time chasing gators and the results were just O.K. For the week we found good volume, but only 4 over 37 with 1 – 38 and 1 – 40.
Years and years ago, I was a “Product Specialist” and Aquarium Biologist at the first big Cabela’s retail store in Sidney, NE. This was the day and time of the late night and fishing show ads for the “Banjo Minnow.” I would have to talk to 40 – 60 people each day and explain to guests that there is no secret lure, there is no magic bait, and there is no short cut. Consistent success is most often correlated to hard work, research, and disciplined experimentation.
That same message consistently resonates through our current nightly round table meetings, especially when the walleyes are dramatically dispersed.
Summer took a break this week. We experienced a 2-day torrential rain event with over 2 in. of rain, cool temps, and raging East to Northeast winds. It was a once a season extreme event and it sent the walleyes out of the shallow water and back into the mid depth zones. There were still a few near the weeds and some walleyes were on sand, but most moved to main lake rock.
For the week, we caught and released 34 walleyes over 27 in., including 7 – 28s, and 1 – 29. Guide sheets averaged 40 walleyes over 18 in. per day. There was a significant increase in the number of 24 – 26 in. walleyes caught after the cold front went through.
The key to success this week was having a fleet of guides on the water using an array of tactics to hunt down groups of walleyes on the move. We still struggle with suspended walleyes. We know how to troll cranks, but it just doesn’t fit in with the way our guests like to fish. The compromise tactic was backtrolling either lighter jigs with live bait at speed or on many occasions, trolling big jigs with Gulp plastics. Part of the formula is covering water, but I believe that using a variety of jig weights and speeds allows us to target the suspended or slightly suspended walleyes that we might normally miss with traditional vertical jigging presentations.
Reviewing the guide sheets for the week, I was still surprised to see how many walleyes were caught shallow early and how many were caught on a variety of different patterns deeper late in the week.
Overall, Pike fishing was good this week. The weeds are up, the groups that like to cast were in, and we spent the time chasing them. The volume of medium sized pike was down a bit, but we did catch and release 17 over 37 in., including 4 – 39s, 2 – 40s, and 3 over 42. Big spoons were top producers and Grinder spinnerbaits were a close second.
Weather. Weather. Weather. We talk about it in retrospect all the time. But, at the end of a challenging day, I ask the first year guides what we are going to do tomorrow….. and they have all learned to know and believe, “Fish it all… and we are going to smash them.”
The Take Away: Plan to win and then… Plan to experiment, adjust, and win.
It felt like summer on Lac Seul this past week, but the walleyes did not get the memo. Daytime highs were consistently in the 70s and 80s with bright sunshine. We had the occasional shower, but the weather was beautiful. Lake surface temps are up over 70 and the main lake weeds are almost all topped out. The surprise is that the heat and sunshine pushed most of the baitfish shallow and the walleyes vacated the deep, summertime locations in mass.
It is true that the odd late June cold snap pushed the walleyes into 20 – 30 ft. prematurely, but I was surprised how quickly they switched back. More than 90% of the walleyes caught this week came from water 15 ft. or shallower. There was a good weed bite for several days, but that also became hit and miss when the wind changed directions. I would take it one step further and say that 75% of the walleyes were caught in water 6 – 12 ft. deep.
Walleyes positioned on the deep edge of the weeds in 9 – 10 ft. of water are easy to catch. Walleyes located smack dab in the middle of a weed bed that is 8 ft. deep and 40 yds wide are a nightmare to target. We caught more of them on spoons casting for pike than we did trying to target them with light jigs. Between the pike bite offs and snagging weeds, it is just a matter of time before you get frustrated and move on.
For the week, we caught and released 29 walleyes over 27 in., including 6 – 28s, 4 – 29s, and 1 – 30. Guide sheets averaged 40 walleyes over 18 in. per boat per day. The volume was good and the top end was good, but we were definitely light on the 24 – 26 in. fish compared to previous weeks.
The pike fishing was good but not great. I say that because even though there were some really nice pike caught this week, we saw just as many or more that followed baits but would not commit. For the week, we caught and released 9 over 37 in., including 4 – 38s, 1 – 39, 1 – 40, and Bill Marsden caught a 44.5 in. monster with a 20 in. girth. He told me before his trip that all he wanted was a really big pike and he got her.
Bass fishing is effectively over for the year. We caught 3 over 19 in. this past week.
The take away: One of my senior guides who loves to fish vertical and slow over deep water told the rest of the crew at round table – “MW has talked about this for years… bright sunshine and hot weather pushing All the walleyes shallow – in the past, I could always find other groups of fish deep and turn them – this week the deep water summer spots were barren…. Empty…. The graph was a white screen of death and it felt like every Lac Seul walleye went shallow.”
The antidote for a transition cold front scramble is stable warm sunshine and the onset of real summer conditions. That is definitely not what happened this past week. Instead, we continued to experience cool conditions, variable winds, and worst of all, nearly daily random rain showers. Not just rain showers, but successive days of rain for 20 minutes, then a break, then rain for another 30 minutes and then the lake went flat again. I have been guiding for almost 30 years, but I could have told you on year one that those conditions consistently yielded tough results. And they did again.
For the week, we caught and released 32 walleyes over 27 in., including 7 – 28s, and just 1 – 29. Volume was way down this week with guide sheets averaging 25 walleyes over 18 in. per boat per day.
As one of the guides out on the lake this past week, I can tell you that like the other guides, I hunted hard. I caught walleyes in 3 ft. of water and I caught them in 33 ft. of water. I used speed and big plastics and caught some and then I hunted with sonar and caught a few with finesse presentations. I caught fish off of structure that we normally fish in August and I found fish in areas that we normally only use in spring. Despite all of the creative thinking, the bottom line is that the entire walleye population was dramatically dispersed this week. When you combine that dispersal with weather conditions that result in few fish biting, then you conclude with a difficult week of walleye fishing. I am just thankful that I was still on Lac Seul.
The weeds are up and nearly topped out even on the main lake, but the pike bite was also still a challenge. There were a few big ones caught at the very end of the week, but overall, it was still a rough one. For the week, we caught and released 8 over 37 in., including 1 – 40, 2 – 41s, and 1 – 42.
There was some effort spent chasing bass and the results were inconsistent. There were a couple of really good guide sheets, but there were also quite a few frustrated bass anglers. For the week, we caught and released 29 over 19 in., including 1 – 20.
At our nightly guide round table meeting, I shared my frustration with the week to our first-year guides. And then, I also reminded them, that all of the groups that are here fishing with us this week have seen the glory days and know that Lac Seul is different and special. They may be a little disappointed with the week’s results compared to previous years, but they are fisherman and they know that weather still matters.